Cannibal Cabaret

Mr Muki

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I'd curious to see which version of the book you prefer.
I'm not really sure I can answer that correctly yet, since I've only read the Pooka version and have only browsed through the Collens book. If I do decide to read it again (I often read books more than once) it will definitely be the book version. If for no other reason, it's easier for me to read a book than a PDF file...
 

Mr Muki

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In the past eight years, I've had three girlfriends, two of whom I shared the fetish with and had good results. The first of those even read the CanCab novel, and really enjoyed it. The eventual breakup was amicable, and due to a health necessity, and nothing personal. We're still close friends, and text frequently. (just last night, in fact) Occasionally, I let a 'Pooka' reference slip into our conversation on how a particular woman is 'cookable', and I usually get a playful eye-roll emoji. πŸ™„ But I am certain she's, at the very least, endearingly amused by it, and would never 'expose' me.

The second of those was also fun in bed, using the fetish as a 'spice'. Shortly after introducing her to the fetish, she texted me photos of herself with an apple in her mouth! When this relationship ended, though, it was very abrupt and no explanation was given. She refused to have a friendship with me, and wanted no communications whatsoever. As you can imagine, this one left me feeling somewhat unclean and paranoid. Did the fetish have anything to do with it? Even if it didn't, was she now using it as justification to herself- or others- for ending the relationship? Had she spoken to any mutual friends about it? Suddenly, I was overwhelmed with paranoia, and was grateful that I hadn't texted her any of my artwork. 'Revenge porn' could be a very interesting thing in my case.

So, my advice is if you are going to share the fetish with a partner, be sure she's a good friend, and an overall good person. It's gonna take a lot of trust to make it work, and you don't want to torment yourself with doubt and insecurity if it doesn't last for the long haul.

That said, my novel (the Collens version) might be a good gateway tool into the fetish. It makes for decent reading, and you can always just say 'Hey, honey' look at this weird book I read', and see her response. If she's appalled by it, you can dismiss it as a silly curiosity. If she seems intrigued, it might be the stepping stone into some serious sexual fun.

I've attached a PDF of the 'Collens' version. It doesn't contain the added 'Pooka' chapters, and should make for safer, mainstream reading.
I realize that we're taking this thread way off of its original topic and beg indulgence here...

Since Mrs Muki and I separated, I'm suddenly free to look for new relationships. At my age (61) it's not exactly easy and I had been with the same partner for over 35 years! I wasn't in a rush to start anything new but eventually, I did begin to wonder how I would go about it. If I met someone interesting out in the "real world" how would I ever bring up the topic of what it is that I do for a living? I foresaw all sorts of awkwardness and shocked outbursts in my future. And then I hatched a plan!

I'm already famous in our own community! Maybe even something of a celebrity? And I have both the cred and the toys to make it work. Why not cast my hook into that pond? So I set up another FetLife account, separate from the one that I use for professional networking, and let it be known that I'm looking for a play partner--A girl who would like to act out the very kinds of scenes that I've been creating for decades.

Unfortunately, my timing really sucked... I did start chatting with some interested potential oven-bunnies (all long-time Muki's Kitchen fans) but just as we started planning a way to meet, the covid lock-down put everything on hold! And not surprisingly, my eager meat-muffins were from all over the country and the world, so airline travel would need to happen for our mutual dreams to come true. (My oven sets are not very portable, so they would need to come to me for it to work.) I did continue to maintain an online dialog with several and we always intended to get together someday.

Well, someday happened early last month. A girl I call Brenda flew in from out of state for 5 nights, all for the sole purpose of playing out her fantasy of being roasted like a turkey! She stayed at a nearby hotel (since our relationship had not progressed to the sexual level) and we played Muki-scenes every day she was out here. We did other things too, like taking her around to see the sights, but Muki-play was always in the plans for every single day.

After she left I thought about what had occurred and decided that I should write out the events and my feelings about them while they were still fresh in my mind. Attached is a PDF file describing our plans, how we acted them out, and what we felt and learned from the experience. I still consider it a work-in-progress but I think I've put down everything I need to say about it and it's time to share. I invite anyone who cares to let me know what they think...
 

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Sous Chef

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I realize that we're taking this thread way off of its original topic and beg indulgence here...

Since Mrs Muki and I separated, I'm suddenly free to look for new relationships. At my age (61) it's not exactly easy and I had been with the same partner for over 35 years! I wasn't in a rush to start anything new but eventually, I did begin to wonder how I would go about it. If I met someone interesting out in the "real world" how would I ever bring up the topic of what it is that I do for a living? I foresaw all sorts of awkwardness and shocked outbursts in my future. And then I hatched a plan!

I'm already famous in our own community! Maybe even something of a celebrity? And I have both the cred and the toys to make it work. Why not cast my hook into that pond? So I set up another FetLife account, separate from the one that I use for professional networking, and let it be known that I'm looking for a play partner--A girl who would like to act out the very kinds of scenes that I've been creating for decades.

Unfortunately, my timing really sucked... I did start chatting with some interested potential oven-bunnies (all long-time Muki's Kitchen fans) but just as we started planning a way to meet, the covid lock-down put everything on hold! And not surprisingly, my eager meat-muffins were from all over the country and the world, so airline travel would need to happen for our mutual dreams to come true. (My oven sets are not very portable, so they would need to come to me for it to work.) I did continue to maintain an online dialog with several and we always intended to get together someday.

Well, someday happened early last month. A girl I call Brenda flew in from out of state for 5 nights, all for the sole purpose of playing out her fantasy of being roasted like a turkey! She stayed at a nearby hotel (since our relationship had not progressed to the sexual level) and we played Muki-scenes every day she was out here. We did other things too, like taking her around to see the sights, but Muki-play was always in the plans for every single day.

After she left I thought about what had occurred and decided that I should write out the events and my feelings about them while they were still fresh in my mind. Attached is a PDF file describing our plans, how we acted them out, and what we felt and learned from the experience. I still consider it a work-in-progress but I think I've put down everything I need to say about it and it's time to share. I invite anyone who cares to let me know what they think...
Thanks for sharing Mr. Muki :
Wonderful descriptive synopsis. I'm happy for you both.
My biggest take on the whole engagement is "Communicating" each other's needs/ expectations.

My wife and I used to write out scripts/screenplays/stories before our "Play times" and then edit them together so as to prevent disappointing "Expectations".

Expectations,IMO,are the#1 killer of spontaneity,and joy ,anytime you're involved the sexual fantasy realm.

Great guide to intimate fetish fun.

Thanks again for the insights
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Pooka

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Ah, it's very interesting to get into the head of a fellow chef.

In my own sexual interactions, we never got much beyond simple, verbal descriptions, usually initiated by the girl once she got familiar with the terms. The closest we ever came to acting anything out was me painting her with a paintbrush, and a bottle of her own body butter. I also printed out some adhesive labels with terms like 'Grade A Prime', etc., which I used to stamp her butt as sort of a reward for her efforts. But to go on for hours, using a predetermined script like yours must have been very ambitious.

I've always wondered what it must be like for you to work with your models, how you introduce them to the concept, and what you discuss. Do you work through a porn industry casting agent? Do you describe it in some kind of an ad, or is it at this point pretty well known in the industry what your company is about? I assume, at this point, that our administrator has built a similar reputation with her Delish Media videos.

You also answer a question I had when writing the novel; how difficult is it for a woman to hold the various 'cooked'poses, and for how long? Apparently not long. I tackle that issue in the book with the creation of 'cycloflexiprine', or 'flex' which the girls use to stiffen their bodies in a kind of paralysis, allowing for longer periods of time to hold a pose. This, of course, features heavily into the climax.

Thanks for sharing your detailed scenario. I hope you and 'Brenda' can get together again, soon.


I realize that we're taking this thread way off of its original topic and beg indulgence here...

Since Mrs Muki and I separated, I'm suddenly free to look for new relationships. At my age (61) it's not exactly easy and I had been with the same partner for over 35 years! I wasn't in a rush to start anything new but eventually, I did begin to wonder how I would go about it. If I met someone interesting out in the "real world" how would I ever bring up the topic of what it is that I do for a living? I foresaw all sorts of awkwardness and shocked outbursts in my future. And then I hatched a plan!

I'm already famous in our own community! Maybe even something of a celebrity? And I have both the cred and the toys to make it work. Why not cast my hook into that pond? So I set up another FetLife account, separate from the one that I use for professional networking, and let it be known that I'm looking for a play partner--A girl who would like to act out the very kinds of scenes that I've been creating for decades.

Unfortunately, my timing really sucked... I did start chatting with some interested potential oven-bunnies (all long-time Muki's Kitchen fans) but just as we started planning a way to meet, the covid lock-down put everything on hold! And not surprisingly, my eager meat-muffins were from all over the country and the world, so airline travel would need to happen for our mutual dreams to come true. (My oven sets are not very portable, so they would need to come to me for it to work.) I did continue to maintain an online dialog with several and we always intended to get together someday.

Well, someday happened early last month. A girl I call Brenda flew in from out of state for 5 nights, all for the sole purpose of playing out her fantasy of being roasted like a turkey! She stayed at a nearby hotel (since our relationship had not progressed to the sexual level) and we played Muki-scenes every day she was out here. We did other things too, like taking her around to see the sights, but Muki-play was always in the plans for every single day.

After she left I thought about what had occurred and decided that I should write out the events and my feelings about them while they were still fresh in my mind. Attached is a PDF file describing our plans, how we acted them out, and what we felt and learned from the experience. I still consider it a work-in-progress but I think I've put down everything I need to say about it and it's time to share. I invite anyone who cares to let me know what they think...
 

Mr Muki

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I've always wondered what it must be like for you to work with your models, how you introduce them to the concept, and what you discuss. Do you work through a porn industry casting agent? Do you describe it in some kind of an ad, or is it at this point pretty well known in the industry what your company is about? I assume, at this point, that our administrator has built a similar reputation with her Delish Media videos.
I do occasionally work with porn casting companies but I also work with self-booking models and models who come to me by word-of-mouth.
I'm not intentionally bragging about this but I am very nice to work with!

I have found (through experience) the right balance of being all business-like and light-hearted. I always have a plan for the shoot and my studio is always set up before the model arrives; set is built, props ready, and lights in place. A complete shoot averages only about 3 hours--and that's counting from the moment the model shows up to when she is showered, paid, and pulling out of the driveway. I do treat my models like collaborators/actors, with due respect and professionalism. I never take inappropriate liberties or assume that it's okay to touch. If I do need to adjust something that the model may have trouble doing unassisted, I ask permission first, do it quickly, and then take my hands off.

When trying to get a new model to pose for me, the first thing I do is ask them to look at my site. That way there are no surprises about what I am doing and what I will be asking them to do. Honestly, most models find it refreshing! The ones who come from the porn industry get so tired of the usual suck-and-fuck that doing something different and creative is like a breath of fresh air. And finally, they can see the quality of my work with their own eyes and infer that I am focused on creating pictures; not just looking for a voyeristic thrill or to cop a feel.

And all of that is really why I'm looking for play partners now! I always envied the models who play chef and really wanted to act out my personal fantasies by preparing a girl for roasting without needing to think about taking pictures. In the case of my recent play-sessions with Brenda, I took a few casual phone snaps but that's all! The focus was on playing and that was like a dream-come-true for me. Sure, I did get to play with Mrs Muki when we were married and she never held my silly fetish against me. But it wasn't her fetish and that was what was missing from our play sessions. She never laid back in a roasting pan or wanted to spend any time in one of my prop ovens. Those aren't the reasons for our divorce--we basically just grew apart in all ways--but they are the reasons why I am now looking for a chance to enjoy a kind of playtime she and I never shared.

As for Brenda and I getting back together for more play, it probably won't happen again very soon. Distance is a core problem (she and I have set down separate roots in different locations) and I think that we are each emotionally in different places too. I don't want to go into more details here but I think that it's safe to say she won't be moving out to Pasadena and/or looking to become play-partners on a more regular basis. We are friends and, if circumstances fall into place, we are definitely up for repeating our kinky adventures but that's all--at least for now.

I am still very interested in acting out Muki's Kitchen scenes as play with other yummy oven-bunnies. If any of the tasty girls here want to see what it's like to be "cooked" (or even experience being a Muki-model without having explicit pictures shared on the internet!), you know where to find me! πŸ˜‹
 

Sous Chef

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Just a random thought:

I've been following your adventures (Muki, Pooka) with " Roll Play" hook ups.

Seems to me, that this Forum above all, would/should be the best place to find like minded play partners. No better place then the mother ship of the fetish so to speak

In our personal profiles, one could include, all the vitals (box check style). Age,Marital status, geographic location,availability for role play,etc.
then via PM, they could set up the boundaries etc.
 

Pooka

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Just a random thought:

I've been following your adventures (Muki, Pooka) with " Roll Play" hook ups.

Seems to me, that this Forum above all, would/should be the best place to find like minded play partners. No better place then the mother ship of the fetish so to speak

In our personal profiles, one could include, all the vitals (box check style). Age,Marital status, geographic location,availability for role play,etc.
then via PM, they could set up the boundaries etc.

I suppose it might be a worthwhile venture. The problem is it's been rumored that half the women on this site are probably men! 😜
 

Sous Chef

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I suppose it might be a worthwhile venture. The problem is it's been rumored that half the women on this site are probably men! 😜

I've been thinking about that for year's. Wonder if Administration has any "Guesstimates" on the real number of women that play here?
 

Mr Muki

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Seems to me, that this Forum above all, would/should be the best place to find like minded play partners. No better place then the mother ship of the fetish so to speak

I'm not sure if turning Pulptoon into a hook-up site would be such a good idea... Not trying to poo-poo an honest suggestion but we should probably run it by our administrator first. Of course, we could always get around that hurdle by simply eating her! πŸ˜‹
 

Pooka

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She's been strangely absent on this thread. Maybe she's already been eaten? :sneaky:

I'm not sure if turning Pulptoon into a hook-up site would be such a good idea... Not trying to poo-poo an honest suggestion but we should probably run it by our administrator first. Of course, we could always get around that hurdle by simply eating her! πŸ˜‹
 

China Lady

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I'm not sure if turning Pulptoon into a hook-up site would be such a good idea... Not trying to poo-poo an honest suggestion but we should probably run it by our administrator first. Of course, we could always get around that hurdle by simply eating her! πŸ˜‹
Honestly, I think it is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd have to name drop Armin Meiwes for you to understand why. The site would literally need some killer liability insurance.

I came here already married to my always forever, and am only here seeking like minded individuals to indulge with, in fantasy. Personally, I'm not here looking for real life hook ups. I'd wager few are.

I'm not saying that you or Pooka would ever do anything like what Meiwes did, You both have reputations the precede you. But there may be a small percentage of people here who would. And another percentage who might simply kidnap for sex trafficking. Whatever the end result, for a fantasy, its simply not worth the risk.
 

Pooka

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I agree. All kidding aside, I wouldn't want to meet and date someone solely from our common interest in this fantasy. I'd be constantly on the lookout for red flags in the relationship, wondering when the whole thing would go topsy turvy. Or maybe it's the Groucho Marx in me saying I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member. :laugh:

Honestly, I think it is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd have to name drop Armin Meiwes for you to understand why. The site would literally need some killer liability insurance.

I came here already married to my always forever, and am only here seeking like minded individuals to indulge with, in fantasy. Personally, I'm not here looking for real life hook ups. I'd wager few are.

I'm not saying that you or Pooka would ever do anything like what Meiwes did, You both have reputations the precede you. But there may be a small percentage of people here who would. And another percentage who might simply kidnap for sex trafficking. Whatever the end result, for a fantasy, its simply not worth the risk.
 

Sous Chef

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Honestly, I think it is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd have to name drop Armin Meiwes for you to understand why. The site would literally need some killer liability insurance.

I came here already married to my always forever, and am only here seeking like minded individuals to indulge with, in fantasy. Personally, I'm not here looking for real life hook ups. I'd wager few are.

I'm not saying that you or Pooka would ever do anything like what Meiwes did, You both have reputations the precede you. But there may be a small percentage of people here who would. And another percentage who might simply kidnap for sex trafficking. Whatever the end result, for a fantasy, its simply not worth the risk.
Your probably right,now that I think about it. One "rogue" nut case could ruin this platform for everyone.
 

deinonychus

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Honestly, I think it is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd have to name drop Armin Meiwes for you to understand why. The site would literally need some killer liability insurance.

I came here already married to my always forever, and am only here seeking like minded individuals to indulge with, in fantasy. Personally, I'm not here looking for real life hook ups. I'd wager few are.

I'm not saying that you or Pooka would ever do anything like what Meiwes did, You both have reputations the precede you. But there may be a small percentage of people here who would. And another percentage who might simply kidnap for sex trafficking. Whatever the end result, for a fantasy, its simply not worth the risk.

I think one of the mods once mentioned that having a forum site aim at providing a platform for hook-ups can be problematic because it comes with different legal requirements than a mere platform for sharing media and chatting, due to anti-prostitution laws. Not sure if that's true or not and how problematic that would be. But that's one of the reasons why we don't have and probably never will have "dating profiles" or a subforum for dating.

Plus as you mentioned already, those responsible for the site could get into big trouble if there was any suspicion that the site knowingly tolerates or supports people finding contacts for any illegal cannibal-related activity, be it consensual or nonconsensual.

That said, AFAIK the Admins have not explicitely forbidden seeking for a real life play partner or a potential relationship here (Agatha had one such post herself here for a week or so some time ago, not sure whether her subsequent hook-up with ModernMajorCannibal was a result of that or not), but of course, every safety precaution commonly advised for meeting someone IRL you met on an anonymous dating app applies ten times when dealing with a fellow cann fetishist, because rare as they may be, the few crazies that want it for real ARE out there and they most certainly do visit forums like this one.

And also the scammers that might be after your real life data to subsequently blackmail you with the threat of revealing your socially largely misunderstood and not accepted kinks to your family, your employer and/or the public. The content creators among us like Muki and Agatha who are already publically exposed as cannibal-fetishists through their business are in a unique position compared to the majority of us in that they don't have to fear that part of the online dating risk and also can be more easily trusted than a random anonymous forum member. You don't shit where you eat, after all ... OK, that idiom is a bad fit ... you don't eat where you ... forget it, you know what I mean. ;)
 

vincent

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I think one of the mods once mentioned that having a forum site aim at providing a platform for hook-ups can be problematic because it comes with different legal requirements than a mere platform for sharing media and chatting, due to anti-prostitution laws. Not sure if that's true or not and how problematic that would be. But that's one of the reasons why we don't have and probably never will have "dating profiles" or a subforum for dating.

Plus as you mentioned already, those responsible for the site could get into big trouble if there was any suspicion that the site knowingly tolerates or supports people finding contacts for any illegal cannibal-related activity, be it consensual or nonconsensual.

That said, AFAIK the Admins have not explicitely forbidden seeking for a real life play partner or a potential relationship here (Agatha had one such post herself here for a week or so some time ago, not sure whether her subsequent hook-up with ModernMajorCannibal was a result of that or not), but of course, every safety precaution commonly advised for meeting someone IRL you met on an anonymous dating app applies ten times when dealing with a fellow cann fetishist, because rare as they may be, the few crazies that want it for real ARE out there and they most certainly do visit forums like this one.

And also the scammers that might be after your real life data to subsequently blackmail you with the threat of revealing your socially largely misunderstood and not accepted kinks to your family, your employer and/or the public. The content creators among us like Muki and Agatha who are already publically exposed as cannibal-fetishists through their business are in a unique position compared to the majority of us in that they don't have to fear that part of the online dating risk and also can be more easily trusted than a random anonymous forum member. You don't shit where you eat, after all ... OK, that idiom is a bad fit ... you don't eat where you ... forget it, you know what I mean. ;)
I met the love of my life online on this site and on Akasa's. She's still my VERY best friend. I have a very few other good friends (non-dating) whom I met here and I have their real names and contact info and they have mine. I treasure the RL relationships that we share. We - they and I - were VERY careful and long-term before we made these personal revelations and - in one case - a personal commitment. And 2 of these people helped me through some incredibly bad times in my life.

All that to say: if it's all about play...or arousal and excitement at the thought...maybe not so much a good idea. If there is some depth and history in the relationship, it probably will be fulfilling...and yes, leave a trail if you feel like you should for safety.

One more thing: more than once I have told Agatha, if I ever get in her neck of the woods I'd buy her a drink. I think she'd have nothing to fear from poor old harmless me...but I'D leave a trail. lol.
 

Mr Muki

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I met the love of my life online on this site and on Akasa's. She's still my VERY best friend. I have a very few other good friends (non-dating) whom I met here and I have their real names and contact info and they have mine. I treasure the RL relationships that we share. We - they and I - were VERY careful and long-term before we made these personal revelations and - in one case - a personal commitment. And 2 of these people helped me through some incredibly bad times in my life.

All that to say: if it's all about play...or arousal and excitement at the thought...maybe not so much a good idea. If there is some depth and history in the relationship, it probably will be fulfilling...and yes, leave a trail if you feel like you should for safety.

One more thing: more than once I have told Agatha, if I ever get in her neck of the woods I'd buy her a drink. I think she'd have nothing to fear from poor old harmless me...but I'D leave a trail. lol.
Well said, Vincent! This is very much my own recent experience.

My own take on hooking up here is this: PulpToon is not a hook-up site... But neither is FetLife! My own hook-up was really just personal messages and getting to know my potential meat-bunny. If you get to know someone, even online, and you come to an understanding and an agreement then that's between you and the person you are PMing with. All of which means that PulpToon can be used as a way to find a play partner or even a life-partner. But it also means that PulpToon didn't set things up that way and should not be held responsible if things go wrong. As always, use your own best judgement, play safe, and own your mistakes--but don't make any in the first place!

Neither Brenda nor I would ever try to hold FetLife responsible if things didn't go as we planned. We met, we got to know each other, we connected on more than just one level, and we agreed to meet for an extended play-date. That's it. I know that I would do it again and I think that Brenda feels the same way. And yes, we enjoyed ourselves and it was fun!
 

Gurgurant

Administrator
Staff member
OK, here is the official word on this...

Pulptoon is not a dating site. If people meet on this site and decide - on their own - that they want to meet, hook up, have sex... whatever... that is entirely on them and their personal choices. We are not going to create a dating or "hook up" forum and we do not encourage personal ads and we will actively delete ads to participate in any kind of violent acts. Just a few days ago I got a complaint from a member here about being harassed by another member. Don't do that. If two people consent to something on their own and that happens here that is fine, but that is not an officially condoned feature of this site. And if you do get together and it doesn't work out, keep it to yourself.
 

Pooka

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Well, I don't know how this thread devolved into a treatise about internet dating, but I'll put my final two cents in, and then I'm done.

From my own recent experience, I will say this: You do NOT want to meet someone on a fetish site of this or any kind? Why? Because your dark sexual fantasies should be the last thing your partner learns about you, only after developing a very deep, and trusting relationship with them, based in love and friendship. Meet them here, and it will be the very FIRST thing they know about you. And that's not something you want to give to someone who may only decide to be in your life for a few months, regardless of what they claim.


OK, here is the official word on this...

Pulptoon is not a dating site. If people meet on this site and decide - on their own - that they want to meet, hook up, have sex... whatever... that is entirely on them and their personal choices. We are not going to create a dating or "hook up" forum and we do not encourage personal ads and we will actively delete ads to participate in any kind of violent acts. Just a few days ago I got a complaint from a member here about being harassed by another member. Don't do that. If two people consent to something on their own and that happens here that is fine, but that is not an officially condoned feature of this site. And if you do get together and it doesn't work out, keep it to yourself.
 
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