Freebie! '69 Special'

nom1

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I'm still having problems with 69 special. I have 2 links for it available, one marked server 2. I downloaded shiska slave from server 2 with no problems. When is used the server 2 link for 69 special I get a 201mb download and roughly 3 minutes of video, the other link gives me a 400 something mb download and a little under 6 minutes. Thanks for the bootyful pic reward for my feedback!
 

dodge10

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I'm still having problems with 69 special. I have 2 links for it available, one marked server 2. I downloaded shiska slave from server 2 with no problems. When is used the server 2 link for 69 special I get a 201mb download and roughly 3 minutes of video, the other link gives me a 400 something mb download and a little under 6 minutes. Thanks for the bootyful pic reward for my feedback!
Same thing for me.
 

Delish Media

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It's my head that needs examined not the video. I logged out and then logged back in, problem solved. Not enough coffee this morning apparently, thank you for the quick response though.
LOL ok cool. I sent a message to Rolando but if that worked, Dodge, maybe try the same thing?
 

dodge10

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Downloaded fine this morning. I hope the models washed their groin area well before filming. :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle: Love the concept and especially the seasoning. I always like that preparation stage (seasoning the meat), it says "now you're just meat". Good job Agatha.
 

mrfantasm

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Worked just fine for me, which is kind of surprising, as I regularly have problems with all sorts of downloads (I'm kind of a klutz...lol). Anyhow...how the Hell did I miss this? Two lovely entrees on the menu? That's right up my alley! Thank you, Agatha!
 

deinonychus

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Download seems to work fine now. Thanks again for the freebie, it's great stuff. I liked the posing and the preparation, the models looked great like that. The acting of the upper dish was a little lackluster, her "please let us go" sounded more bored/awkward than scared, but overall the performance of both was good. I think with the overall concept of the video, it was the right decision to not have them actually do a 69 on the platter, it would have clashed with the noncon scenario. if they just started licking each other in that situation. It could have worked as a hot scene if the scenario was that they still think the chef is just some kind of pervy roleplayer and will let them go after they did as they were told, so the chef orders them to pleasure each other and later reveals that it was all for getting them more tender and seasoning themselves, but getting those ideas across would definitely have required dialogue. So for the silent chef concept, not doing the 69 was probably for the best.

The ending scene after the cooking could certainly have been improved by better body make up / practical effects that would have made them look more cooked. (The body painting in your new turkey video preview looks great by the way, something like that could really have pushed the ending scene to the next level) I understand that this is probably an issue of cost, since it needs investing much time and effort for just a small improvement and is a hindrance if you plan to do multiple shoots with the same models in one session. But if you don't want to go there with the practical effects, I'd recommend to keep the post cooking scenes short and blurry (or not including them at all and ending with the girls passing out in the oven), because showing the cooked dish extensively and clear from multiple angles like you did here just highlights how very much not cooked the ladies look (although I have to pay a compliment to them managing to really keep perfectly still for that comparatively long showing and prodding them "dead" scene).

A fun budget option to show off the "cooked" girls without extensive practical effects could maybe be teaming up with one of our talented photomanip artists and conclude a video with a slideshow of manipped pictures of the girls. Could maybe be integrated into the plot by showing the chef taking some photos for "the restaurant website" or for his "food blog" and then showing the "resulting" pictures.

I personally prefer videos with a little more setup and banter between the characters, the silent POV chef doesn't do much for me and I don't find that concept very immersive either, because the chef's movement almost inevitably come across as somewhat off ... wooden, not naturally moving ... because of the need to drag the camera around with them and keeping the camera steady. Doesn't really look like the real thing unless you include the camera in the fantasy and imagine the POV character is shooting a home video while cooking. But I guess that's a personal preference thing and the POV genre seems to have an audience in porn.
 

Delish Media

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This is great feedback! Thanks so much. Yeah I really like the serving scene idea with still pictures. It would be so easy to manip them cooked in stills. I would have to since we have to shoot multiple clips in a day shoot. But I am seriously thinking of going back to shooting just one really good clip with good fx and paint per hire. Of course, this all depends on if the most recent clips sells well or better than the pale skin cooked ones or not. I would much rather shoot one elaborate story than kill myself dealing with 2 models all day and getting several clips. But if this latest one does not sell, I may go ahead and try that manip slide how idea in a few. Also the trickery of the 69 is a great idea.

ok another sexy pic as promised. Not that dirty but i like this lingerie lol

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nom1

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Sorry it took so long for feedback but as promised it's here. It's great that you're willing to give us some clips and all you ask in return is our opinion on the product which will in turn be used to improve it. Help me help you right? Plus we get bonus pics, it's a win on all levels. Disappointing to see so few responses. Anyway, I will be blunt and say I was not as big a fan of 69 special as I was of Shiska Slave. Both actresses are physically appealing, I liked the contrast between April's more voluptuous body and Nadia's slender form. (I think April also resembles you, am I the only one that thinks that? That could be useful for a sister or cousin themed shoot) I agree with Deinonychus that Nadia's acting was not great but in all fairness there wasn't much of it to judge. Roughly 3 minutes of dialog in a 13 ish minute scene, I didn't like that aspect. IMHO the gags went in way too early, particularly with the chef being silent. I also wasn't a fan of the POV style shooting, taken together with the lack of dialog it made things very slow and one dimensional. I also prefer more sexuality in the shoots but again have to agree with Deinonychus that it didn't fit this particular scene. I like his trickery idea, another one would be to have the chef convince one of the girls to help cook the other in exchange for letting her go then changing his mind and wanting to cook them together. Overall I didn't care for this one but if you ever have the two models together again I wouldn't mind seeing a reshoot with a few changes. Maybe you walk in on your sister April playing with her friend Nadia on your kitchen island and you decide to show them the proper use of a kitchen! Just a thought.
 

Delish Media

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Yeah the trickery idea is a great one. And thank you. I will beg and beg for feedback and I know a few of you will give some. So I appreciate it a lot. I like the idea of tricking one girl to help cook the other. Since I am often behind camera, if I was pov style but also talked, would that help?

Or is pov just not liked in general? And the chef is preferred seen? I really love the honest feedback from you guys and I do not want people to be afraid to be honest because its me. Consider my AI. I need input to learn and therefore output what y'all like :)

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I feel awkward leaving feedback, mostly because I don't have an artistic bone in me. But here are some clumsy thoughts from a fan who likes the peril side more than the cann side:

The idea for 69 special is a good one. Multi-victim dishes are fun, and the girls looked sexy tied up and helpless. However, the acting sort of fell flat and made the video a little awkward to watch. Their resigned/muted begging felt out of place. It seems like by the time they are trussed in the pan their please should be a bit more desperate and energetic. I definitely prefer to see the chef speaking to and interacting with the meat. The gloved hand giving wordless instructions didn't do a lot for me, especially because the girls looked so bored. I think it would have benefitted from much more dialogue and some sort of less generic scenario. Your best videos are the ones that tell a story. A girl nervously agreeing to be cooked so that her gf won't be grounded, an interviewer getting tricked into becoming stew, job applicants finding out they'll never have to work again. . .

Again, I hate saying anything negative about your videos, especially ones offered for free :p I've loved a lot of your work this just wasn't one that scratched the itch for me.
 

nom1

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Yeah the trickery idea is a great one. And thank you. I will beg and beg for feedback and I know a few of you will give some. So I appreciate it a lot. I like the idea of tricking one girl to help cook the other. Since I am often behind camera, if I was pov style but also talked, would that help?

Or is pov just not liked in general? And the chef is preferred seen? I really love the honest feedback from you guys and I do not want people to be afraid to be honest because its me. Consider my AI. I need input to learn and therefore output what y'all like :)

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Relaxing pre cooking, getting loosened up for the spit and then washing the meat just before roasting...nice! It would definitely have helped if you at least were talking but I'd have preferred to hear more from the meat too. Love it when the apples go in but that's more of a finale for me or you're tired of the begging, etc. I would like to hear them for 2/3 of the movie or more. I didn't really like the silent chef thing at all. Personally I would prefer not to see that again. POV I'm not really for or against at this point. I didn't like it in this one but it's not a complete dealbreaker. I will say it's not my preference, sorry to be wishy washy but I don't have a strong feeling about it. I would hate for you restrict your creative process because there's so few people commenting so it seems proportionally like POV is unpopular. Maybe do a POV poll? People seem much more comfortable voting than sharing more comprehensive feedback.
 

deinonychus

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Since I am often behind camera, if I was pov style but also talked, would that help?

Or is pov just not liked in general? And the chef is preferred seen?

In my opinion, it would definitely help if you'd at least talk when doing POV, but I'm probably not the one to ask here, because I'm not a big fan of POV in general. I don't dislike it, but I'm not particular keen on POV and I would prefer to see the chef. Since the whole point of POV porn videos is to be extra immersive so that the viewer can imagine themselves in the position of the POV character without having to imagine major changes. The POV character talking would probably already somewhat defeat the purpose of POV.

The problem with POV is that it is very hard to do with a character that you'd suppose to be active and talking in the scene, because even if the viewer could imagine "their" part of the dialogue, there is still the issue that the characters in the video can't react to that dialogue. Thus just assuming the POV-characters possible dialogue and have the other characters react to it without it actually being said can be puzzling and break the immersion if the dialogue isn't obvious or the viewer would imagine it very differently. With standard vanilla porn its realtively easy to do, because it's just straight up fucking and going through the standard positions and the "dialogue" doesn't matter much anyway. In a fetish piece, the dialogue is much more important.

In the cann fetish, it IMHO only works with scenarios where the on-screen character is in the lead and the POV-character mostly passive or merely reactive, so it works best with the viewer as the victim. The chef would usually take charge in the scenario and decide what happens next (and also talk), so the immersion doesn't really work with the POV character as the chef. What could possibly work as a dom POV would be the viewer is an apprentice chef who gets walked through the process of cooking the girl by another chef. So the actor who plays the chef would be on screen and would do the talking and saying what comes next and tell the "apprentice chef" POV character what he should do, which then could be done by the silent hand.

Another thing that could possibly be a great experience as a POV video (though I don't know how much more difficult that would be to make compared to a normal video and whether the additional effort would be worth the revenue) would be making the POV-Video actually interactive, like a very simple visual novel / CYOA style game with real video footage instead of CG animations. The viewer gets presented a few options to pick what to say or do to the meatgirl and you'd shoot different video snippets that fit those various options and get played depending on which option the viewer clicks. Something similar like Roslynds kitchen club game, just with real fotos and video snippets instead of 3D rendered graphics. Would of course have to be smaller than that, with only one or two girls maximum and not too much overall options how to prepare them.
 

Delish Media

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I know now to talk if I ever do POV again. And also, no worries on negative feedback on free videos. This is why I put them out and want feedback. I want this trust me.

The formula when I shot those clips was to hire two girls at porn rates and then shoot a lot of clips. But I am changing this model. Just trying to figure out how to set this up.

Now for the idea of interactive, I have toyed with this idea. The coding aspect is the hard part. To have the video go to a menu where you choose an outcome. Ofcourse, I could just sell a part 1. Then a part 2 - this version. part 2- that version.

Again, many many thanks for the feedback! And as promised for feedback more naughty pics
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smilingmask

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Speaking as someone who's done a fair amount of looking around for content like this, I can say that one of the most important parts of this fetish for me (and the way you and your artists/models do it) is the story, sort of, but mostly the way the models interact. It's why Sorority Roast is one of my favorites--Alexis Blaze is clearly having a great time playing a ditzy cannibal sorority girl, and Zoey's playing along. Honestly most of your quiet videos don't really scratch the itch for me (and similar for the ones that some of the other studios do from time to time, it's really rare to find a conversation happening in those that's longer than about 30 seconds). I felt like there wasn't much effort to do that kind of back-and-forth in this one (and like my fellow posters said, it's probably a side effect of it being a POV video...those are rarely my thing, even if I did really enjoy some of the visuals on this one...in that regard, nothing to complain about, though I wouldn't mind if they ate each other out a bit more).

You're one of the best models for that back-and-forth, honestly, just because you're so comfortable with the idea of the fetish that you can have fun. Even make the occasional dumb joke. You do a very good chef/witch/whatever other hungry thing happens to be devouring some poor girl today. You, Alexis Blaze, and Val Dodds are my favorites for that stuff, (though Ziva's getting up there...she also looks like she's having a good time, not just doing a job.)

Visually, of course, the whole thing was hot, and far be it from me to complain about a free video by my favorite fetish studio featuring two beautiful women 69ing.
 

Delish Media

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Thanks and yes the silent POV was an experiment but maybe it just did not hit for many people. This is noted and I will most likely not be doing this again. Thank you for the kind words also. I am trying to make sure to work with models who can act. Sometimes it is hard to tell if I have never had them before. But I do have a few that are great. Cheers :)

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Delish Media

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I also think maybe male writers and directors feel like maybe they are lecherously punching down if the males do not get eaten.

Notice in Fresh 2022, which is one of the few that did cann kind of right, it was written and directed by women.
 
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